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Shinscar

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #30 on: May 23, 2012, 02:26:51 PM »
I guess the heads have been tested loads now.... how are they doing?

Be good to see some after photos and details on how much they have been played?

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #31 on: May 23, 2012, 02:28:59 PM »
Yes, i have two heads who have been tested since more than a month now, i will post some picture.

They still look good.

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2012, 02:45:21 PM »
GREAT...

Maybe they're a bit too tough then? Be good to see for deformations. Funny seeing as the weight difference was hardly any at all.

That triangle added was pretty solid looking at the section photo.


If we could get the weight nearer to 80g that would be amazing!

125mm maybe that should be less? I play with 120mm if you remove that from the thinnest part Im sure the capped end wont need as much there in the triangle.
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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2012, 03:08:37 PM »
Funny seeing as the weight difference was hardly any at all.


In fact we haven't added material, we have mainly moved it: the corner was too solid for the rest (walls/cap).



I think we can gain some weight in the following part, what you think?:



The thing is: the extra material keep the open end round (the shape stay as much as possible as a circle) so i wouldn't cut too much of it.

Other thing: smaller diameter (currently 63mm) save a lot of weight from 63 to 61 save 8g.
This will make the head more solid and much lighter but can we talk about the same head after all?
A ball is arround 63-65mm diameter for what it worth.

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #34 on: May 23, 2012, 03:16:28 PM »
I think the diameter is right unless the rules change id be reluctant to change that right now. It maybe the future but who knows?

I think its a matter of small adjustments now. I'd be against changing anything on the uncaped end as it seems to not have any problems.

I think loosing 5mm in length will do quite a bit.

Then next would be making a med and a light head for different types of game play.


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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #35 on: May 23, 2012, 03:30:24 PM »
I doubt we will change the length for this model (the 125mm).

But we have in mind to do a 115mm that would fit the need of people who like shorter and lighter heads, this one could potentially goes to 82g (2g gain from the thinner walls and 6g in the triangle).

We may can produce 4 models:

cap: 115 / 125
uncap: 115 / 125

But about lighter and medium model:
In my opinion they have to be all as strong as the current model, because how can you promote a lighter/weaker model?

"lighter model for girls/kids?"

Maybe the lighter could be 60mm diameter ( http://poloschlaeger.de/ is 60mm for exemple) at this diameter it could be just under 80g.

We don't know now what will be our next step to be frank.

By the way, how would you call the capped one? Simple Cap? Simple Capped?
(and are you on facebook)

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #36 on: May 23, 2012, 04:14:32 PM »
I think these make sense:
cap: 115 / 125
uncap: 115 / 125

Capped mallet name... I m boring so i like the Simple Cap 1.1 or the SC 1.1
I guess it could be - MILK Cap 1.1

Single and double capped heads are going to be the standard sooner or later.


I think ive sent you a friend request?

I've also messaged you did that get though to you?

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #37 on: May 23, 2012, 04:33:22 PM »
Are you Ray?

Shinscar

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #38 on: May 23, 2012, 04:34:31 PM »
Ha... yep.

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #39 on: May 23, 2012, 04:51:28 PM »
Don't get your message though, if it was this morning my facebook messages was fucked for 1-2 hours.

Yes it's Simple Cap 1.1 and Simpl 1.0 for now.

For the record, i play two side open, but yes, maybe double caped will be soon on the trend.
A way to cap the open side, a separate cap could be a good addition.

BUT: does the cap in the mass will still make sense if we have a good cap system?

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #40 on: May 23, 2012, 05:14:35 PM »
Oh i sent the message from here via private message. I'll message in facebook instead if you can not see it?

I dont think i like the capping as an "add-on" i think MILK should only do professional products. MILK has one of the best looking and best engineered mallet heads out there, why ruin it. Simplicity in engineering should be its selling point. Not adaptation. Thats my opinion.


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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #41 on: May 23, 2012, 05:18:18 PM »
Ok i've see it, let's continue about your message topic on facebook (i've messaged you on facebook about that before i read your message btw :)

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #42 on: May 23, 2012, 05:30:15 PM »
I dont think i like the capping as an "add-on" i think MILK should only do professional products. MILK has one of the best looking and best engineered mallet heads out there, why ruin it. Simplicity in engineering should be its selling point. Not adaptation. Thats my opinion.

Absolutely.

Was thinking out of loud about a double capped head. Working with CNC and extruded rod exclude the possibility of a double capped in the mass obviously.

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #43 on: May 23, 2012, 05:58:41 PM »
Actually this was an idea i had ages ago...


photo dated march 2010. Still like the principle.

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Re: The next batch of Simple and Simple Caped
« Reply #44 on: May 23, 2012, 06:12:15 PM »
more like this if you use a MILK fixing detail inside the head.